![]() There are also effect boxes (pedals) used to make adjustable delays.Ī fixed time delay is more interesting as a visual display than a fixed phase delay. The mixing board used for the stage might also have an adjustable delay built in. \$T= d/343\$ gives the time delay \$T\$ in seconds when \$d\$ is given in meters.Īt such short distances the volume shouldn't drop much - any difference in volume could be compensated by adjusting the gain for the microphones. Shorter distances will give a shorter delay. Two microphones in line about 0.34 meters apart will give about a 1 millisecond delay. You can make a fixed time delay by using an all pass filter.Ī simpler way to do it would be to place two microphones at a certain distance from each other in front of the speaker. That causes a varying phase shift as the frequency changes.Īs an example, a time delay of 1 millisecond is a phase delay of 360 degrees for a 1000 hertz tone, but only a 90 degree phase delay for a 250 hertz tone. The video appears to be using a fixed time delay. ![]() If they are identical, then you get a diagonal line.Īnother use is for detecting (or measuring) the phase delay of two signals - say, checking on the phase delay of an amplifier. One use of such figures is to see how different the two channels of a stereo signal are. Lissajous figures can be made from two independant signals, or from one signal with a delay. They appear to be using a video camera to capture the screen of an analog oscilloscope. You can see the grid of an oscilloscope display in the video. These are made by plotting two signals against each other using the XY mode of an oscilloscope. The visual display in the video shows what are called Lissajous figures. I used Lissajous figures to look at the Hilbert output and discovered that they were very far from being 90 degrees apart at low frequencies. The results of the algorithm using the Hilbert function were wrong, and I eventually narrowed it down the Hilbert function itself. I learned that the hard way by trying to use the PD Hilbert function at low frequencies. The approximation holds over a very large part of the audio spectrum, but it fails at low frequencies. The "Pure Data" Hilbert function makes use of a pair of filters whose phase delays sum to 90 degrees to approximate the real Hilbert function. You can chain multiple filters together to get phase delays that add up to whatever fixed phase delay you would like.Ī variable phase delay (same phase delay for all frequencies) would be difficult to build, and I'm not sure you could make it easily variable with a single potentiometer. You have to have a time delay that varies with the frequency.Īs you've mentioned, filters have a phase delay that varies with frequency. Regardless of the method the musicians used to create the visual effect in the video, I'm still interested in whether or not an answer to my original question exists.Ī fixed phase delay is difficult to make. When I first started thinking about this problem, I thought that the channel 1 input could be coming directly from the guitar and the channel 2 input could be coming from the end of a pedal board containing some DSP hardware that reproduces the signal with an imperceptible delay, which got me thinking about reproducing the effect using a simple phase shift circuit. I believe the channel 1 input is the raw guitar signal and the channel 2 input is a very slightly delayed (ie phase shifted) version of the same signal. I think they are achieving the visual effect in the video with the XY mode on an analog oscilloscope and projecting a live video feed of the oscilloscope screen. I don’t care about attenuating the harmonic frequencies but I’d like to keep the fundamental frequencies as intact as My original motivation for asking this question was in an effort to reproduce the oscilloscope effect shown in this video. Is this possible with a few op amps and passive components? I know filters have certain phase shift responses across a certain frequency range, but I don’t want to attenuate my signal, I just want the ability to phase shift it at will. The signal is roughly 1V peak to peak and has a fundamental frequency range between 80Hz and around 1000Hz and has harmonic frequencies up to around 10kHz. ![]() I’d like to be able to phase shift a raw guitar signal with a potentiometer between 0 degrees and 360 degrees. ![]()
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